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  • Lithuania to Promote

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  • Japan to Promote

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  • South Korea to Promote

    1 2.94%
  • Belgium to Promote

    0 0%
  • Romania to Promote

    3 8.82%
  • Serbia to Promote

    1 2.94%
  • Lithuania to Relegate

    0 0%
  • Japan to Relegate

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  • South Korea to Relegate

    0 0%
  • Belgium to Relegate

    16 47.06%
  • Romania to Relegate

    5 14.71%
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Thread: 2009 U20 DIV II Group A in Romania From December 15-21

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    u20 IHWC 2009 U20 DIV II Group A in Romania From December 15-21

    2009 U20 DIV II Group A Tournament from Miercurea Ciuc, Romania from December 15-21 at the Vakar Lajos Icerink.

    Post all news and notes for the 2009 U20 DIV II Group A Tournament in Romania in this thread here.

    Parctiting Teams
    Belgium
    Japan
    South Korea
    Lithuania Relegated from 2008 U20 DIV I
    Romania
    Serbia Promoted from 2008 U20 DIV III

    Tournament Schedule
    DateHome TeamAway TeamStart Time
    12/15South KoreaLithuania13:30
    12/15SerbiaBelgium17:00
    12/15JapanRomania20:30
    12/16LithuaniaBelgium13:30
    12/16JapanSouth Korea17:00
    12/16RomaniaSerbia20:30
    12/17Off Day  
    12/18JapanSerbia13:30
    12/18South KoreaBelgium17:00
    12/18Lithuania Romania20:30 
    12/19BelgiumJapan13:30
    12/19SerbiaLithuania17:00
    12/19RomaniaSouth Korea20:30
    12/20Off Day  
    12/21South KoreaSerbia13:30
    12/21LithuaniaJapan17:00
    12/21BelgiumRomania20:30
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    I think we're going to see a pretty tight group the whole way through here.
    I have Japan moving up, I don't think Lithuania will be able to repeat their big win from 2 years ago.
    The lower tier will be pretty even, i think (LTU, SER, BEL), Romania should be mid-table IMO.

    That's just me guessing a bit.

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    I expect Lithuania to be stronger because their U-18 team last season was strong. I think they could win this. For relegation it's harder to predict but I will go for Belgium.

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    Battle for promotion will be though, Lithuania, Japan, South Korea. Even Romania maybe can make some upset. Belgium will be relegated.
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    it will be a hard game between belgians and serbs, i hope that serbia will stay in division

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    SC Energija Elektrenai - Lithuania U20 5:2

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    Any predictions for the openening day of the tournament tommrow.

    South Korea VS. Lithuania

    Serbia VS. Belgium

    Japan VS. Romania
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    South Korea VS. Lithuania 2-5

    Serbia VS. Belgium 5-3

    Japan VS. Romania 6-1
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    South Korea VS. Lithuania 2:4

    Serbia VS. Belgium 1:3

    Japan VS. Romania 7:1

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    South Korea VS. Lithuania 2:5

    Serbia VS. Belgium 6:4

    Japan VS. Romania 7:1
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    South Korea VS. Lithuania 5-0

    Serbia VS. Belgium 4-0

    Japan VS. Romania 3-1

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    Belgium

    For all of you thinking Belgium is the clear favourite to relegate, I have this information for you. Last monday, in preparation for the WC, Belgium beat Holland (who have the level of a top div 2 team) with 6-4! The problem is that one of the best belgian players is suspended for the first two games. Other weaknesses are their depth (first line is probably one of the finest of the tournament but the rest is pretty weak) and their goaltending ( both still u18) !
    We'll see what it gives, Fingers crossed.

    Go Belgium

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    My predictions for today:

    First game is already done,

    Serbia-Belgium: 3-7

    Japan-Romania: 5-3

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    Serbia - Belgium 3-4 OT

    Japan - Romania 6-2
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    Prediction Final Standings

    1. Lithuania (awsome duo: kumeliauskas, verenis)
    2. Japan
    3. Belgium
    4.Korea
    5.Romania
    6.Serbia

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    1-2 for Belgium after 1st! Fluke goal for Serbians 11 seconds in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zherdev87 View Post
    1. Lithuania (awsome duo: kumeliauskas, verenis)
    2. Japan
    3. Belgium
    4.Korea
    5.Romania
    6.Serbia

    Hey may you there? watching live? ;)

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    I'm note there live but I'm in direct contact with the team.

    Score midway through the third period 2-6 for Belgium. Belgium is the better team now and is dominating Serbia.

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    Final Score

    Serbia - Belgium 2-6 (1-2)(1-1)(0-3)

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    Looks like Japan is handing out a beating to the home team Romania.

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    Scores and Standings after Day 1

    South Korea 1 Lithuania 4 (0-2, 1-0, 0-2)

    Serbia 2 Belgium 6 (1-2, 1-1, 0-3)

    Japan 12 Romania 0 (1-0, 3-0, 8-0)


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    Day 2 Schedule

    Lithuania VS. Belgium

    Japan VS. South Korea

    Romania VS. Serbia
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    very interested in any pics from this tournament!

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    Final Score

    Lithuania - Belgium : 9-1 (2-0)(2-1)(5-0)

    Game dominated by the lithuanians but Belgium defended well in the first two periods. In the last period after the 5th goal for Lithuania, heads went down for the belgians. Weak goaltending from the belgian goalie and big performance from the deadly lithuanian duo (Verenis: 7 points - Kumeliauskas: 5 points).

    Looks like the gold medal will go between Lithuania and Japan. Belgium, Korea will battle for bronze while Romania and Serbia will try to avoid relegation.

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    Here is the poster of the tournament.


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    IIHF

    Has anybody got an idea what's going to happen with the team that ends last? There's no division III this season (shame on you IIHF), so there's noone to get promoted.

    I guess the proper thing to do is to freeze the status of all teams except for the winner and let them play in division 2 next season as well. No division 3 team deserves to be promoted since noone was willing to organise the division 3 tournament in the first place.

    It seems that IIHF got lost between NHL - KHL cold war, start of the CHL and presidential elections and forgot about its mission to promote hockey and help its "third world" member in organising the only competition open to such nations.

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    South Korea could make things intresting in their far east battle with Japan. KOR leads 4-2 with 3 unawsered goals mid way through the 2nd period from Tae Hwan Park, Hyung Ki Kwak, and Krung Hung Kan. If KOR wins this would throw the tournament into a tail spin.
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    Korea did win 4-5 in the end. The shots on goal were 31-12 for the Japanese but the Koreans were deadly in finishing. Now it looks like it's Lithuania's tournament to lose. Unless something surprising happens, we will see them in Div I next year.
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    Final Scores and Standings after day 2

    Scores Day 2

    LTU - BEL 9 - 1 (2 - 0) (2 - 1) (5 - 0)
    JPN - KOR 4 - 5 (1 - 1) (1 - 3) (2 - 1)
    ROU - SRB 2 - 3 (0 - 1) (1 - 1)( 1 - 0) (0 - 1)

    Standings

    Rank Team GP W OTW OTL L PTS GDF GF:GA
    1 LTU 2 2 0 0 0 6 11 13: 2
    2 KOR 2 1 0 0 1 3 -2 6: 8
    3 JPN 2 1 0 0 1 3 11 16: 5
    4 BEL 2 1 0 0 1 3 -4 7: 11
    5 SRB 2 0 1 0 1 2 -3 5: 8
    6 ROU 2 0 0 1 1 1 -13 2: 15

    Schedule Day 3

    THU 18 DEC 13:30 JPN - SRB
    THU 18 DEC 17:00 KOR - BEL
    THU 18 DEC 20:30 LTU - ROU

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    I think Linthuania is the prime candidate to win gold. With the overtime win of Serbia over Romania, Belgium is almost surely going to avoid relegation(even if I think there won't be any relegated team), because I don't see how Serbia will take points away from Japan Lithuania or Korea. Romania will need a win against Belgium if it wants to avoid last place. From 2n to 4th place will go between Japan, Korea and Belgium. Maybe the belgians can stunt against Korea or japan and get an unexpected medal. This would be a nice accomplishment given the relative young age of the belgian player group.

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    great win for serbian team, I didnt expect that. Goalie is saved us
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    u20 IHWC help

    Any one looking to give me a hand with this tournament who knows these teams please contact me. www.evenstrength.com leave a post and i'll get it.

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    Belgium Belgian Future

    This afternoon, Belgium will have a very important game if they want to compete for a medal. But even if they don't, it looks like the belgians will have a very strong team for the U18 Championships. Their 3 biggest and in my opinion best defencemen are from 1991. Those 3 (Engelen(will play USHL with Sioux City next year), Lacroix, and certainly Gyesbreghs) will maybe be joined by Lorenzo Maas (Iserlhorn- DNL Germany) and Elliott Hardy (Deerfield High School- Illinois USA). Their two goalies from this championships are still eligible to play U18 and so will be stronger. Their top center (Kolodziecjzyk) from this team is also from 91. He will be joined by two other U18 forwards present in Romania.

    However, Belgium biggest talents aren't even in Romania.

    Mitch Morgan is a very talented forward born in 1991. He enjoyed his hockey education in Belgium before moving to Germany as a 14 year old. There he played for the Kolner Haie DNL Team. He was third in his team in scoring and got called up to play for the senior national team of Belgium. He played with them at last year's Championships in Romania and had 9 points (5G,4A) in 5 games as a 16 year old kid. This summer, he got drafted by the Val D'or Foreurs of the QMJHL and plays there this year.

    Stats: http://www.eurohockey.net/players/sh...?serial=120267

    Sam Verelst is also born in 1991. He also started in Belgium before moving to Germany. After having a difficult season last year, he is enjoying a very fine season. He is leading his team (DEG Dusseldorf- DNL) in points and assists.

    Stats: http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/...&seasonid=3065

    Dennis Swinnen is probably the youngster with the brightest future of them all. He is born in 1993 and his already pretty big for his age. Last year, he exploded the scoring charts with the Schüler Team of Kölner Haie. He leaded his team in points, goals and assists. This year he plays in the DNL team of Kölner Haie and he is the leader in points and assists for rookies in the league.

    Stats: http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/...&seasonid=3065

    The 1993 generation that is coming up is very talented and will in my opinion battle for a spot in Div 1 in a couple of years.

    Hopefully, all these players will ba able to join the U18 team this year and maybe, we will have a little chance to promote to Div 1.

    Good luck,

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    Korea - Belgium : 0-1 after 1 period

    What a big stunt this would be from the belgians. I hope they can hang on. Then they can go for a medal. That would be awsome.

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    Korea-Belgium 3-3 (0-1)(3-2) ,after 2 periods

    Belgium completely dominated Korea in the second. They outshot 20-8 in this period. Belgium also missed a big 5on3 opportunity at the end of the 2nd. What a pity.
    Hopefully they will get away with this win, it would be a good boost for belgian hockey.
    Overall, Korea is better technically but the belgians are a step ahead physically. We'll see witch one is more important.

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    Finally Korea won 5-4. Pity for Belgium...seems Korean Power Play made the difference.

    In first game of the day Japan hammered Serbia

    Korea - Belgium 5-4 ( 0-1, 3-2 2-1)
    03:01 0:1 12 Van Den Bogaert B (2 Campo D.)
    21:34 0:2 11 Abe W ( 23 Lacroix M.)
    23:10 1:2 10 Lee Dm (23 Oh Dh.,7 Jang Jy)PP
    23:45 1:3 10 Kolodziejczyk B (17 Camelbeeck P.,15 Paulus J.)
    25:11 2:3 7 Jang Jy (17 Lee)
    36:19 3:3 12 Chung Yj (15 Kwak Hk)PP
    40:49 4:3 24 Cho Hg (10 Lee Dm )PP
    50:16 5:3 6 Park Sj (1 Hwang Hh,9 Ko Hb)PP
    58:42 5:4 17 Camelbeeck P ( 4 Distate M.,10 Kolodziejczyk B. )
    PIM: 5x2 - 9x2 SOG: 33-43 Att: 100

    Japan - Serbia 11-1 (4-0, 3-1, 4-0)
    13:32 1:0 10 Matsuura S (7 Sekiya S.,23 Shigeno S.)
    15:24 2:0 18 Kiya D ( 5 Shinohara Y.,14 Kawamori Y.)PP
    15:58 3:0 11 Konno M ( 13 Usho K.,12 Mizuuchi N.)
    17:15 4:0 16 Terao H ( 21 Tanaka M.)
    27:31 5:0 16 Terao H ( 11 Konno M.)
    29:09 6:0 22 Saito K (18 Kiya D.,13 Usho K.)
    34:40 6:1 7 Vucurevic N (2) 8 Sabados R.,17 Korac M.)SH
    38:26 7:1 21 Tanaka M (16 Terao H.,15 Yamauchi S.)PP
    43:12 8:1 19 Takei J (18 Kiya D.,4 Sugisawa Y.)
    52:43 9:1 12 Mizuuchi N (14 Kawamori Y.,19 Takei J.)
    56:57 10:1 3 Sasaki K (4 Sugisawa Y.)
    57:18 11:1 12 Mizuuchi N ( 9 Ito Y.,6 Kitamura K.)
    PIM: 9x2 - 11x2 SOG: 40-9 Att: 79

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    Scores and Standings after Day 3

    Japan 11 Serbia 1 (4-0, 3-1, 4-0)

    South Korea 5 Belgium 4 (0-1, 3-2, 2-1)

    Lithuania 8 Romania 1 (2-1, 4-0, 2-0)

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    Day 4 Schedule

    Belgium VS. Japan

    Serbia VS. Lithuania

    Romania VS. South Korea
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    any photos from this tournament?

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    What a shame yesterday for the belgians, they really deserved the victory against the koreans. Let's hope they can play well against Japan and that they stay out of the penaltybox. The winner of this game is getting the bronze medal so real important game.

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    Belgium - Japan 1-13 (0-3, 0-5,1-5)
    04:11 0:1 15 Yamauchi S (16 Terao H.)
    17:48 0:2 10 Matsuura S ( 3 Sasaki K.,22 Saito K.)PP2
    18:21 0:3 16 Terao H (5 Shinohara Y.)PP
    28:11 0:4 23 Shigeno S (22 Saito K.,10 Matsuura S.)PP
    32:43 0:5 7 Sekiya S (23 Shigeno S.,5 Shinohara Y.)PP
    36:11 0:6 11 Konno M ( 9 Ito Y.,13 Usho K.)
    37:38 0:7 19 Takei J (18 Kiya D.,14 Kawamori Y.)
    39:38 0:8 10 Matsuura S (23 Shigeno S.,22 Saito K.)
    41:25 1:8 14 Dewin T
    42:22 1:9 3 Sasaki K. SH
    44:03 1:10 16 Terao H (22 Saito K.,6 Kitamura K.)
    48:13 1:11 16 Terao H (15 Yamauchi S.,21 Tanaka M.)
    57:38 1:12 10 Matsuura S (5 Shinohara Y.,22 Saito K.)PP2
    58:43 1:13 3 Sasaki K (12 Mizuuchi N.,4 Sugisawa Y.)PP
    PIM: 15x2 - 8x2 SOG: 14-54 Att: 70

    no chances today for Belgium vs Japan. Once again Belgians had a problem with opponents' power play...

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    Scores and Standings after Day 4

    Belgium 1 Japan 13 (0-3, 0-5, 1-5)

    Serbia 1 Lithuania 10 (0-3, 1-3, 0-4)

    Romania 3 South Korea 4 (SO) (2-1, 1-1, 0-1, 0-0, 0-1)

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    Final Day Schedule

    South Korea VS. Serbia

    Lithuania VS. Japan

    Belgium VS. Romania
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    Final day, game #1

    Korea - Serbia 4-3so (1-2, 0-1, 2-0, 0-0, 1-0)
    09:37 0:1 7 Vucurevic N (6 Sibinovic L.,24 Cengeri V.)PP
    16:06 1:1 11 Lee Dw (18 Kang Kh.,12 Chung Yj.)
    19:30 1:2 8 Sabados R (18 Guzina M.,6 Sibinovic L.)PP2
    37:16 1:3 21 Brkusanin M (11 Komazec D.,13 Lukovic A.)
    49:53 2:3 17 Lee Sj ( 13 Park Th.,7 Jang Jy.)PP2
    58:23 3:3 11 Lee Dw (18 Kang Kh.,10 Lee Dm.)
    65:00 4:3 6 Park Sj So
    PIM: 6x2 - 8x2 SOG: 35-27Att: 50

    gaining this point Serbia advances at 3 points along with Belgium.
    Tonight game Romania - Belgium will be decisive for relegation

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    Decisive, yes...

    If Belgium wins in regulation, Romania relegates on points.
    If Belgium wins in OT, Romania relegates due to losing the game vs Serbia.
    If Romania wins in regulation, Serbia relegates due to losing the game vs Belgium.
    If Romania wins in OT, Serbia relegates on points.

    Serbia's status now rests in the hands of the Belgians. Harsh.

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    In the game for Promotion, Japan is leading 3-1 at the 1st intermission. Lithuania scored 1st with a goal from Tadas Kumeliauskas. The Japanese scored 3 unawsered with goals from Naoto Mizuuchi, Hiromichi Terao, and Kenta Saito. In addidition Lithuania switched goalies after the 2nd JPN Goal, now back up Arturas Kuzmicius is now in for LTU.
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    u20 IHWC

    If anyone relegates from the division II, who is going to get promoted in their place and under what pretext?

    I think IIHF dropped a ball by failing to organised division III tournaments.

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    Japan wins promotion to DIV 1 with a 5-4 win. Despite a great comeback attempt by LTU in which LTU made it a 1 goal game twice in the last 6 minutes, the JPN Game winner comming from Shun Matsuura with 5 minutes left and a strong goaltending effort by Ryo Saskai to protect the lead for JPN. Congrats to JPN for promotion and for LTU comes up short after a having a very strong tournament all week this week.
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    Lithuania - Japan 4-5 (1-3, 1-0, 2-2)
    08:01 1:0 17 Kumeliauskas T ( 15 Verenis P.,18 Zidkovas A.)
    08:48 1:1 12 Mizuuchi N (11 Konno M.,6 Kitamura K.)PP
    12:53 1:2 16 Terao H (6 Kitamura K.,7 Sekiya S.)
    Gk 12:53 Ltu 1 Kuzmicius A - Goalkeeper In 20 Kielius E - Goalkeeper Out
    18:34 1:3 22 Saito K ( 4 Sugisawa Y.)
    33:22 2:3 21 Nekrasevicius K (17 Kumeliauskas T.,15 Verenis P.)PP2
    43:46 2:4 21 Tanaka M (16 Terao H.)PP
    54:02 3:4 19 Bosas A (13 Rulevicius P.,24 Streckis D.)
    55:02 3:5 10 Matsuura S (23 Shigeno S.)
    58:56 4:5 17 Kumeliauskas T (4 Burakov A.)
    PIM: 12x2+1x10(Rulevicius) - 7x2 SOG: 22-53 Att: 250

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    Congrats to Serbia, they will stay in division

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drax View Post
    If anyone relegates from the division II, who is going to get promoted in their place and under what pretext?
    I suspect that no one will get relegated from any division that is effectively the lowest in the tournaments this year due to cancellations (u20, women).

    Quote Originally Posted by Drax View Post
    I think IIHF dropped a ball by failing to organised division III tournaments.
    The problem is that, if no country wants to organise, the IIHF rules don't allow any alternatives...

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    Scores and Final Standings

    South Korea 4 Serbia 3 (SO) (1-2, 0-1, 2-0, 0-0, 1-0)

    Lithuania 4 Japan 5 (1-3, 1-0, 2-2)

    Belgium 5 Romania 3 (2-2, 2-0, 1-1)


    #TeamWOTWOTLLPTSGF-GA
    1Japan40011245-11
    2Lithuania40011235-9
    3South Korea22011019-18
    4Belgium2003617-33
    5Serbia0113310-33
    6Romania002329-32

    Japan is promoted to the 2010 U20 DIV 1

    Romania is relegated to the 2010 U20 DIV 3
    To check out ice hockey from a Lone Star Prespective, check out my blog at www.texasicehockeyexpert.blogspot.com

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    isnt there 2 teams promoted since 2 are being relegated????

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