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Karsten

19-11-2007, 21:32

DANFOSS CHALLENGE 13-15 DECEMBER 2007 @ Odense

Teams

http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_ani/Denmark.gif Denmark
http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_ani/France.gif France
http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_ani/Norway.gif Norway
http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_ani/Slovenia.gif Slovenia

SCHEDULE

Thursday, 13 December
16:30, France - Norway
19:30, Denmark - Slovenia

Friday, 14 December
16:30, France - Slovenia
19:30, Denmark - Norway @ Vojens

Saturday, 15 December
14:00, Norway - Slovenia
17:00, Denmark - France

Atahualpa

20-11-2007, 09:48

Interesting tournament, but I'm surprised. Denmark in EIHC?? Didn't Danish federation choose itself not to participate at this kind of tournaments? What happened??

Vlao

10-12-2007, 21:29

Goalies:
Peter Hirsch, AaB Ishockey
Simon Nielsen, Rødovre Mighty Bulls
Patrick Galbraith, SønderjyskE
Søren Nielsen, Odense Bulldogs

Defensman:
Rasmus Pander, Herning Blue Fox
Daniel Nielsen, Leksand Stars
Andreas Andreasen, EfB Ishockey
Morten Dahlmann, Herlev Hornets
Jesper Damgaard, Rødovre Mighty Bulls
Mads Schaarup, SønderjyskE

Forwards:
Christoffer Kjærgaard, Herning Blue Fox
Thor Dresler, Odense Bulldogs
Rasmus Olsen, AaB Ishockey
Michael Smidt, Rødovre Mighty Bulls
Mick Jensen, Herning Blue Fox
Mads Christensen, Herning Blue Fox
Peter Regin, Timrå
Kasper Degn, Nordsjælland Cobras
Julian Jakobsen, Odense Bulldogs
Morten Lie, SønderjyskE
Kim Lykkeskov, SønderjyskE
Kim Karsberg, Odense Bulldogs
Morten Andreasen, Rødovre Mighty Bulls

Vlao

10-12-2007, 21:30

Goalies:

FERHI Eddy
LHENRY Fabrice

Defensman:

AMAR Baptiste
BACHET Vincent
QUESSANDIER Benoît
BONNARD Jean-François
BESCH Nicolas
LACROIX Simon
TRABICHET Teddy

Forwards:

MEUNIER Laurent
TREILLE Yorick
GRAS Laurent
BELLEMARE Pierre-Edouard
COQUEUX Olivier
TARDIF Luc
ZWIKEL Jonathan
TREILLE Sacha
HECQUEFEUILLE Kévin
DESROSIERS Julien
LUSSIER Anthoine
ROZENTHAL François
FLEURY Damien

Vlao

10-12-2007, 21:32

Goalies:

Pål Grotnes (Comet)
Ruben Smith (Storhamar)

Defensman:
Alexander Bonsaksen (Vålerenga),
Jonas Holøs (Sparta),
Ola Johannessen (Comet),
Mattias Livf (Storhamar),
Lars Erik Lund (Vålerenga),
Per Tengvert (Sparta),
Lars Løkken Østli (Storhamar)

Forwards:
Jonas Andersen (Sparta),
Anders Bastiansen (Mora),
Cato Cocozza (Vålerenga),
Kristian Forsberg (Storhamar),
Mads Hansen (Brynäs),
Petter Kristiansen (Frisk Asker),
Kjell Richard Nygår (Vålerenga),
Martin Røymark (Sparta),
Lars Erik Spets (Brynäs),
Per Åge Skrøder (Modo)
Mathias Trygg (Vålerenga),
Marius Trygg (Stavanger),
Petter Witnes (Sparta),
Mats Zuccarello (Frisk Asker)

Vlao

10-12-2007, 21:36

Goalies:
Gaber Glavič,
Andrej Hočevar
Anže Ulčar

Defensman:
Jakob Milovanovič,
Damjan Dervarič,
Sabahudin Kobačevič,
Žiga Pavlin,
Mitja Robar,
Mitja Sotlar,
Andrej Tavželj,
Uroš Vidmar

Forwards:
Andrej Hebar,
Tomo Hafner,
Matej Hočevar,
Marjan Manfreda,
Egon Murič,
Aleš Mušič,
Rok Pajič,
Boris Pretnar,
Aleš Remar,
Mitja Šivic,
Edo Terglav
Anže Terlikar

Missing: Vnuk, Rebolj, Stromberg, Golič, Polončič, Zupanic

Vlao

11-12-2007, 22:07

From official source http://www.slohokej.net//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=225&Itemid=1

Goalies:
Gaber Glavič (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Andrej Hočevar (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Anže Ulčar (HK Triglav Kranj)

Defensman:
Metod Bevk (HK Slavija)
Mitja Sotlar (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Jakob Milovanovič (HC Briancon /Fra)
Žiga Pavlin (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Andrej Tavželj (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Igor Cvetek (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Boštjan Groznik (HDD ZM Olimpija)
David Mlinarec (HD Jesenice mladi)

Forwards:
Andrej Hebar (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Anže Terlikar (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Marjan Manfreda (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Aleš Remar (HK Acroni Jesenice)
Jure Kralj (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Matej Hočevar (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Egon Murič (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Aleš Mušič (HDD ZM Olimpija)
Mitja Šivic (HC Briancon /Fra)
Jure Stopar (HK Slavija)
Rok Jakopič (HD Jesenice mladi)
Klemen Žbontar (HD Jesenice mladi)

The missing list of players is longer than previously

Karsten

12-12-2007, 20:24

Vlao, thanks for posting the rosters. Note that Ukraine doesnt participate in Danfoss Cup.

Here's the updated Norwegian roster

Goaltenders
Pål Grotnes, Comet
Ruben Smith, Storhamar

Defense
Alexander Bonsaksen, Vålerenga
Jonas Holøs, Sparta
Ola Johannessen, Comet
Mattias Livf, Storhamar
Brede Csiszar, Vålerenga
Per Tengvert, Sparta
Lars Løkken Østli, Storhamar

Forwards
Anders Bastiansen, Mora (SWE)
Kristian Forsberg, Storhamar
Petter Kristiansen, Frisk
Lars-Peder Nagel, Stavanger
Kjell Richard Nygård, Vålerenga
Martin Røymark, Sparta
Eirik Skadsdammen, Storhamar
Lars Erik Spets, Brynäs (SWE)
Inge Stokvik, Comet
Steffen Thoresen, Vålerenga
Mathias Trygg, Vålerenga
Marius Trygg, Stavanger
Petter Witnes, Sparta

Karsten

12-12-2007, 20:48

Goaltenders
Peter Hirsch, AAB
Simon Nielsen, Rødovre Mighty Bulls
Patrick Galbraith, SønderjyskE
Søren Nielsen, Odense Bulldogs

Hmmm....how many do we need?

Defense
Rasmus Pander, Herning Blue Fox
Daniel Nielsen, Leksand (SWE-1)
Andreas Andreasen, EfB Ishockey
Morten Dahlmann, Herlev
Jesper Damgaard, Rødovre Mighty Bulls
Mads Schaarup, Sønderjyske *
Mads Bech Christensen, Frederikshavn *
Mikael Eskesen, Stjernen (NOR)

Forwards
Christoffer Kjærgaard, Herning Blue Fox
Thor Dresler, Odense Bulldogs
Rasmus Olsen, AAB
Michael Smidt, Rødovre Mighty Bulls
Mick Jensen, Herning Blue Fox
Mads Christensen, Herning Blue Fox
Peter Regin, Timrå (SWE)
Kasper Degn, Nordsjælland Cobras
Julian Jakobsen, Odense Bulldogs
Morten Lie, Sønderjyske *
Kim Lykkeskov, Sønderjyske
Kim Karsberg, Odense Bulldogs
Morten Andreasen, Rødovre Mighty Bulls

Decent defense, but many notable forwards are missing, most notably Kim Staal and Morten Green. However, none of the teams will play with their best roster - Norway's for one is essentially a B-team- so no excuses.

Sidenote: Mario Simioni, Sønderjyske's headcoach and arguably the smartest coach in the league, has been invited as guest coach for the Danish team.
Why, I may ask? This has certainly not been a practise in the past, at least not since the famous Boris Kulagin assisted Richard Davis at the soft ice at Las Palmas, 30 years ago. Is it a sign? A sign that the DIU is finally losing patience with Sirant? You may take a look at this:
http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showpost.php?p=97712&postcount=24

Karsten

12-12-2007, 21:05

Historical sidenote added. To my best knowledge, the last time DIU invited a guest coach was 30 years ago.

This sidenote could be very well be the most interesting thing about this upcoming tournament, and I'm not being ironic.

Sirant could surely use all the coaching practise he could get, so why invite a guest coach? My only guess is that something is happening in the corridors of DIU, but it may be wishful thinking. DIU often move in mysterious ways. And their website STILL ain't working!!!

hcacavi

13-12-2007, 21:05

Tobias

13-12-2007, 21:08

Is anyone have the result for the match FRANCE Vs NORWAY, please?

Norway won 3-1. You can follow the games live here.
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/live.html

Tobias

13-12-2007, 21:23

Denmark up 6-1 against Slovenia with 10 minutes to go. I have often praised Daniel Nielsen as one of the absolute best Danish d-men, if not the best. And his development has seems to have taken a leap since he joined Leksands. 3 goals and 1 assist so far!

ElQuapo

13-12-2007, 22:02

Denmark - Slovenia 7-1 (0-0, 2-1, 5-0)
30:59 1-0 Daniel Nielsen (J. Jakobsen) PP
33:31 2-0 Daniel Nielsen (Pander, J. Jakobsen) PP
39:34 2-1 Andrej Hebar (Terlikar) PP
40:55 3-1 Christoffer Kjærgaard (D. Nielsen, K. Degn) PP
46:42 4-1 Mick Jensen (Eskesen, R. Olsen)
50:06 5-1 Daniel Nielsen (Damgaard) PP
52:25 6-1 Morten Andreasen (M. Smidt) PP
54:40 7-1 Kasper Degn (M. Christensen, J. Jakobsen)

Denmark 5x2, Slovenia 10x2

ElQuapo

13-12-2007, 22:08

Sidenote: Mario Simioni, Sønderjyske's headcoach and arguably the smartest coach in the league, has been invited as guest coach for the Danish team.
Why, I may ask? This has certainly not been a practise in the past, at least not since the famous Boris Kulagin assisted Richard Davis at the soft ice at Las Palmas, 30 years ago. Is it a sign? A sign that the DIU is finally losing patience with Sirant? You may take a look at this:
http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showpost.php?p=97712&postcount=24

According to Simioni himself, he has been helping the players with tips for playing on NHL size rinks, in preparation for the IHWC on small rinks in Canada.

SønderjyskE play all their home games on a small rink - and Simioni notes that he may end up regretting giving tips to opposition players on how to play when in Vojens :-)

http://www.sportensverden.dk/hockey/item.asp?id=7702

Whether this is the whole story is another matter - you could very well be right.

Tobias

13-12-2007, 22:20

According to Simioni himself, he has been helping the players with tips for playing on NHL size rinks, in preparation for the IHWC on small rinks in Canada.

SønderjyskE play all their home games on a small rink - and Simioni notes that he may end up regretting giving tips to opposition players on how to play when in Vojens :-)

http://www.sportensverden.dk/hockey/item.asp?id=7702

Whether this is the whole story is another matter - you could very well be right.

Please don't use Sportensverden as a relieable source :-).

Anyway the arguement simply sounds stupid to me. Should Simioni help the players with tips for the small rinks? First of all why should Sirant need any help here? He has spend far most of his hockey career in N. America, and know all the tricks there is himself. Secondly, Simioni has spend many years in Europe now, playing mostly on big rinks. I know that the rink in Sønderjyske is small, but still, the vast majority of the rinks he has seen the last 10-15 years has been big. I really don't believe that that's the real reason.

Karsten

13-12-2007, 22:21

I agree with Butcher. I can smell that something is going on in the corridors. And just to remind: The fact that the upcoming big tournaments IHWC 2008 and the Olympics in Canada will be played in small rinks was the reason why DIU hired Sirant in the first place. So why bring in Simioni?

And here are the results from the first day of Danfoss Cup:

Norway - France 3-1 (1-0, 0-1, 2-0
1-0 08:57 Petter Witnes (Mathias Livf) PP1
1-1 20:12 Damien Raus (Baptiste Amar)
2-1 53:32 Eirik Skadsdammen (Anders Bastiansen, Mathias Livf) PP1
3-1 54:58 Eirik Skadsdammen PP1
Norway 10x2, France 11x2, SOG 21:31 (8:8, 7:15, 6:10)

Denmark - Slovenia 7-1 (0-0, 2-1, 5-0)
1-0 30:59 Daniel Nielsen (Julian Jakobsen) PP1
2-0 33:31 Daniel Nielsen (Rasmus Pander, Julian Jakobsen) PP1
2-1 39:34 Andrej Hebar (Anze Terlikar) PP1
3-1 40:55 Christoffer Kjærgaard (Daniel Nielsen, Kasper Degn) PP1
4-1 46:42 Mick Jensen (Michael Eskesen, Rasmus Olsen)
5-1 50:06 Daniel Nielsen (Jesper Damgaard) PP2
6-1 52:25 Morten Andreasen (Michael Smidt) PP1
7-1 54:40 Kasper Degn (Mads Christensen, Julian Jakobsen)
DEN 5x2, SLO 10x2, SOG 40:24 (15:9, 12:11, 13:4), Att: 1,049

Denmark's biggest victory against Slovenia ever, and it only took half a game to make it

Tobias

13-12-2007, 22:24

I'm not that much into Slovenian hockey: was the Slovenian team also lacking their stars?(of course i know that they miss Kopitar, but besides that)

Karsten

13-12-2007, 22:29

I'm not that much into Slovenian hockey: was the Slovenian team also lacking their stars?(of course i know that they miss Kopitar, but besides that)

Because EBEL is not having an international break. Neither is DEL, and that's the reason why Norway is missing most of its biggest stars in Europe.

This tournament is basically a tournament for fringe players. It doesn't have much value.

The result today just prove that the Danish league has more depth than the Slovenian league. As if this obvious piece of fact was to be tested. So why invite Slovenia at all. I don't get it.

ElQuapo

13-12-2007, 22:37

Please don't use Sportensverden as a relieable source :-)

Well, I doubt they would quote him for something he has not said :-)

Anyway the arguement simply sounds stupid to me. Should Simioni help the players with tips for the small rinks? First of all why should Sirant need any help here? He has spend far most of his hockey career in N. America, and know all the tricks there is himself. Secondly, Simioni has spend many years in Europe now, playing mostly on big rinks. I know that the rink in Sønderjyske is small, but still, the vast majority of the rinks he has seen the last 10-15 years has been big. I really don't believe that that's the real reason.

Good point - Sirant should know all this himself.

ElQuapo

13-12-2007, 22:52

Sorry, forgot to ask in my previous reply, but does anyone know the reason why Staal and Green are not with the team?

Are they just being spared to give other players a try?

Karsten

13-12-2007, 23:10

Sorry, forgot to ask in my previous reply, but does anyone know the reason why Staal and Green are not with the team?

Are they just being spared to give other players a try?

Taking care of minor injuries.

Marc

14-12-2007, 10:50

By the way, just to be precise with the roster :

Forwards:

MEUNIER Laurent : out (plays in Swiss LNB on loan)
TREILLE Yorick : out
GRAS Laurent
BELLEMARE Pierre-Edouard
COQUEUX Olivier
TARDIF Luc
ZWIKEL Jonathan
TREILLE Sacha
HECQUEFEUILLE Kévin
DESROSIERS Julien
LUSSIER Anthoine : out (plays in Swiss LNB)
ROZENTHAL François : out (injury)
FLEURY Damien : out (injury)

I doubt Bellemare and Besch are there since Allsvenskan doesn't stop either.
Most notable replacement player : Maurice Rozenthal (hadn't be selected for a year).

I'd be interested in game reports if there is any.

Bennison

14-12-2007, 11:03

By the way, just to be precise with the roster :

I doubt Bellemare and Besch are there since Allsvenskan doesn't stop either.

www.crosschecking.se reports that Bellemare from Leksand and Besch from Nyköping will be missing from tonights game between the two teams as they are playing with their national teams. No mention of Daniel Nielsen though.

www.leksandsif.se however reports that Daniel Nielsen is away with the national team.

Karsten

14-12-2007, 11:42

.

I'd be interested in game reports if there is any.

Besch and Bellemare are indeed there

French lineup vs Norway:

42. Fabrice Lhreny
33. Landry Macrez

04. Teddy Trabichet
06. Antonin Manavian
17. Benout Quessandier
27. Baptiste Amar
41. Simon Lacroix
55. Jean Francois Bonard
74. Nicolas Besch

09. Maurice Rozenthal
13. Jonathan Zwikel
14. Julien Desrosiers
15. Pierre-Edourd Bellemare
16. Erwan Pain
18. Luc Tadif
19. Olivier Coqueux
24. Niclas Antonoff
26. Antoine Lussier
28. Laurant Gras
36. Kevin Hequefeuille
37. Damian Raus
38 Cyril Papa

Official gamesheet from

FRA vs NOR: http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11636_kamprapport.pdf
DEN vs SLO: http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11637_kamprapport.pdf

bhabjan

14-12-2007, 15:40

zamo86

14-12-2007, 16:09

Here is the list of Slovenian players who will most likely play in Canada.

GK: R.Kristan
A.Hočevar

D:R.Ciglenečki
A.Kranjc
M.Rebolj
M.Sotlar
U.Vidmar
S.Kovačeič
M.Robar
D.Varl
D.Dervarič

F: M.Rodman
D.Rodman
T.Razingar
I.Jan
T.Vnuk
J.Avgustinčič
J.Goličič
G.Polončič
E.Terglav
T.Hafner
D.Kontrec
A.Kopitar

The list is of course not final there is more of talented players who will have the chance too
proove them selfs.Now you can compare this list with the roster and see who is missing.
I am sorrey that you can not see our best team but they need some rest.Our best teams
Olimpija and Jesenice are playing in EBEL ligue and i must say they are doing just OK.

Best regards from SLOVENIA.

What about Jan Muršak? I think he deserves a chance in the squad for the WC in Canada. Slovenia would definetly need a (extremly) fast winger. And if his (OHL) team lets him play in U20 championship i dont see the reason why wouldnt he play in the WC. I sure hope HZS will manage to make a deal with his club.

And about SLO team on this tournament. Unfortuantly Slovenia is playing with their B squad. At least 10 of the best players are missing. And yes. Slovenian championship doesnt have that much deepth. Its pretty much an amateur league.

Karsten

14-12-2007, 17:31

France has gained a healthy 3:0 lead after 25 min against the amateur team of Slovenia. Another redundant game.
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/live.html

Karsten

14-12-2007, 18:49

Informal game summary:

France - Slovenia 4-2 (2-0, 1-2, 1-0)
1-0 05:28 Laurant Gras (Maurice Rozenthal, Olivier Coqueux) PP1
2-0 19:53 Kevin Hecquefeuille (Cyril Papa)
3-0 26:08 Laurant Gras (Maurice Rozenthal, Olivier Coqueux) PP1
3-1 31:29 Andrej Tavzelj PP1
3-2 38:20 Andrej Hebar
4-2 ?????
FRA 12x2 + 1x10 (Desrosiers), SLO 10x2, SOG 24:19 (10:6, 8:7, 6:6), Att: 45

I will fill-in the blanks later tonight, and add the official gamesheet.

Here is the link to the official game sheet: http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11638_kamprapport.pdf
The sheet will be available once it has been uploaded.

Karsten

14-12-2007, 21:54

Denmark - Norway 4-0 (2-0, 0-0, 2-0)
1-0 07:21 Mads Bech Christensen (Morten Andreasen, Andreas Andreasen)
2-0 17:57 Kim Karsberg (Morten Andreasen, Thor Dresler)
3-0 51:08 Kasper Degn (Mads Christensen)
4-0 59:05 Christoffer Kjærgaard
DEN 8x2, NOR 6x2, SOG 36:33 (9:8, 15:15, 12:10) Att: 1,586
Goaltenders: Patrick Galbraith - Ruben Smith

This game will remembered for two things:

1) First national team game ever in the old Vojens Skjøtehal. Probably also the last since a new arena is being built.

2) Patrick Galbraith made his debut as goaltender and produced another stunning shutout. I think its safe to say that he will be chosen as Denmark's third goaltender at the IHWC.

Officiel gamesheet: http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11639_kamprapport.pdf (will be available when uploaded)

Aldair

14-12-2007, 22:49

Denmark - Norway 4-0 (2-0, 0-0, 2-0)

So big difference? Any explanation? Was Denmark so dominated during the whole game? By shots it seems pretty equal. Bad luck for Norway?

Karsten

14-12-2007, 23:15

So big difference? Any explanation? Was Denmark so dominated during the whole game? By shots it seems pretty equal. Bad luck for Norway?

Gleb, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this result. It was basically two B-teams squaring off. However, if you want an answer, it could be that the Danish league has more depth than the Norwegian. This would make a difference in a game like this.

Aldair

14-12-2007, 23:35

... it could be that the Danish league has more depth than the Norwegian.

Right, Aalborg's relatively success in CC can only prove that the league is improving. As for Norvegians - just pity that they ignore the international tournament for some years in a row, even so pure like CC. Hopefully the new "super-fasel-euro-league" (or whatever the name is) will attract them.

Karsten

14-12-2007, 23:55

True

On a note, I was more sort of referring to the fact that the Danish clubs have consistently beaten the Norwegian teams in the pre-season games in the past 4-5 years. Too me, this is evidence that the Danish league has more depth than the Norwegian.

Still, I think the Norwegians have a far better youth hockey program, and this will count in the long run. To be precise: on the youth side, Denmark may at the moment have better top prospects, but Norway has far more depth.

bhabjan

15-12-2007, 03:36

bhabjan

15-12-2007, 04:03

and Zamo86 I am sorrey if i did not listed your favorit player(Muršak) but you have too admite
there are some other players I did not put them on the list like Žagar,Pajič;Terglav,Murič,Mušič
Pajič..... who will recive the call too play in the first before him.But do not give up on him,he is our future with K.Tičar and G.Kopitar !!

Tobias

15-12-2007, 09:45

Karsten you hve the point about whitch leuge is the strongest,but you must have in mind that
Slovenia has only about 300 ice hockey players and we are proud too play in the elite group.
Maybe some will tell you that we should not be amongst the elite but we have the hart and skiles too fight the top teams off the world.
And for the end off this story Ihve a mesage for the Canadiens:take your first game off the championship like you are playing for the gold course we will !!

Trust we, i really admire Slovenia's place in the hockey world. It's impressive for such as small nation to be where you are. It always is. Just like it's(even more) impressive that Denmark is where Denmark is(also thinking talentwise).

But still, Denmark is in another level, and we have to look forward, not down. We have to challenge nations that are at least on par with us. With all respect, Slovenia aren't. And losing 7-1 surely doesn't show me that the players have the skill to play here, quite the contrary.

27133

15-12-2007, 11:35

Sorry, but Denmark is not another level. Slovenia with Kopitar, Razingar etc. (and remember that Rok Pajic is one ob the best forwards of Czech 1st league) will be probably stronger as Denmark in Canada.

Karsten

15-12-2007, 15:01

Karsten you hve the point about whitch leuge is the strongest,but you must have in mind that
Slovenia has only about 300 ice hockey players and we are proud too play in the elite group.
Maybe some will tell you that we should not be amongst the elite but we have the hart and skiles too fight the top teams off the world.
And for the end off this story Ihve a mesage for the Canadiens:take your first game off the championship like you are playing for the gold course we will !!

I have very much respect for Slovenia, and the Slovenian national team is definitively about the same level as Denmark.
It's just not the Slovenian team we are seeing at Danfoss Challenge. Nearly all the Slovenian players at Danfoss Challenge play in the Slovenian league which is in essential an amateur league. Therefore I think it was wrong to invite Slovenia to Danfoss Cup, just as would think it would be wrong to invite Denmark to a tournament in Slovenia if Denmark was to play with players from its 1 division (also essentially an amateur league).

Tobias

15-12-2007, 15:19

With all the teams best players, i think Denmark is the best team, without much doubt. Maybe "on another level" was too strong a word, but i clearly see the Danish team as the better team.

Anyway what i was trying to get to was that Denmark HAS to look forward. We have all these top prospects coming up, and our NT will improve a lot over the next couple of years on many areas. When this happens we have play better nations, not playing all those games against Slovenia, France, Italy, etc. Instead we should be looking forward and increase the number of games against nations like Switzerland, Germany, Latvia etc.

I hope my point is more clear this time, and again, i certainly have very much respect for Slovenian hockey.

hcacavi

15-12-2007, 20:54

Just happy to announce FRANCE - DENMARK, 4-2 FOR FRANCE!!!

Yes! they did it!

Karsten

15-12-2007, 23:35

Just happy to announce FRANCE - DENMARK, 4-2 FOR FRANCE!!!

Yes! they did it!

I haven't read any reportings from the game (except the game summary), but I'm sure the victory was well-deserved.

fan75

16-12-2007, 20:54

What about Jan Muršak? I think he deserves a chance in the squad for the WC in Canada. Slovenia would definetly need a (extremly) fast winger. And if his (OHL) team lets him play in U20 championship i dont see the reason why wouldnt he play in the WC.
If Belleville is still in the playoffs (and they would have to reach the OHL final for that to be the case), he wouldn't be going.

Karsten

17-12-2007, 00:02

Danfoss Challenge, Odense/Vojens, 13-15 December 2007

ROSTERS

http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/denmark.jpg Denmark
Goaltenders: Peter Hirsch (AAB), Patrick Galbraith (Sønderjyske), Simon Nielsen (Rødovre). Defense: Rasmus Pander (Herning), Mads Schaarup (Sønderjyske), Daniel Nielsen (Leksand, SWE-1), Jesper Damgaard (Rødovre), Michael Eskesen (Stjernen, NOR), Andreas Andreasen (Esbjerg), Mads Bech Christensen (Frederikshavn). Forwards: Kasper Degn (Nordsjælland), Kim Lykkeskov (Sønderjyske), Michael Smidt (Rødovre), Mich Jensen (Herning), Christoffer Kjærgaard (Herning), Mads Christensen (Herning), Thor Dresler (Odense), Morten Lie (Sønderjyske), Morten Andreasen (Rødovre), Kim Karsberg (Odense), Rasmus Olsen (AAB), Julian Jakobsen (Odense).

http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/france.jpg France
Goaltenders: Fabrice Lhenry (Esbjerg, DEN), Landry Macrez (Amiens). Defense: Teddy Trabichet (Grenoble), Antonin Manavian (Grenoble), Benoit Quessandier (Rouen), Baptiste Amar (Grenoble), Simon Lacroix (Angers), Jean Francois Bonnard (Grenoble), Nicolas Besch (Nyköpings, SWE-1). Forwards: Maurice Rozenthal (Morzine), Jonathan Zwickel (Morzine), Julien Desrosiers (Rouen), Pierre-Eduard Bellemare (Leksands, SWE-1), Erwan Pain (Chamonix), Luc Tadif (Morzine), Olivier Coqueux (Esbjerg, DEN), Nicolas Antonoff (Mont Blanc), Antoine Lussier (Lausanne, SUI-1), Laurent Gras (Amiens), Kevin Hequefeuille (Grenoble), Damian Raus, Cyril Papa (Villard de Lans).

http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/norway.jpg Norway
Goaltenders: Pål Grotnes (Comet), Ruben Smith (Storhamar); Defense: Per Tengvert (Sparta), Mattias Livf (Storhamar), Jonas Holøs (Sparta), Alexander Bonsaksen (Vålerenga), Ola Johannessen (Comet), Lars Østli (Storhamar), Brede Csiszar (Vålerenga), Forwards:Matthias Trygg (Vålerenga), Lars-Erik Spets (Brynäs, SWE), Lars Peter Nagel (Stavanger), Petter Witnes (Stavanger), Eirik Skadsdammen (Storhamar), Anders Bastiansen (Mora, SWE), Inge Stokvik (Comet), Martin Røymark (Sparta), Steffen Thoresen (Vålerenga), Kristian Forsberg (Storhamar), Kjell Richard Nygård (Vålerenga), Petter Kristiansen (Frisk Asker)

http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/slovenia.jpg Slovenia
Andrej Hocevar (Acroni Jesenice), Glavic Gabar (Acroni Jesenice), Anze Ulcar (HK Triglav Kranj). Defense: Domen Vedlin (HDD ZM Olimpija), Bostjan Groznik (HDD ZM Olimpija), Mitja Sotlar (Acroni Jesenice), Ziga Pavlin (HDD ZM Olimpija), Andrej Tavzelj (HDD ZM Olimpija), Jakob Milovanovic (Briancon, FRA), Igor Cvetek (HDD ZM Olimpija), Metod Bevk (HK Slavija). Forwards: Rok Jakopic (HD Jesenice mladi), Egon Muric (HDD ZM Olimpija), Ales Music (HDD ZM Olimpija), Marjan Manfedra (Acroni Jesenice), Jure Stopar (HK Slavija), Ales Remar (Acroni Jesenice), Anze Terlikar (Acroni Jesenice), Mitja Sivic (Briancon, FRA), Matej Hocevar (HDD ZM Olimpija), Klemen Zbontar (Jesenice mladi), Jure Kralj (HDD ZM Olimpija), Andrej Hebar (Acroni Jesenice).

13 December 2007

Norway - France 3-1 (1-0, 0-1, 2-0
1-0 08:57 Petter Witnes (Mathias Livf) PP1
1-1 20:12 Damien Raus (Baptiste Amar)
2-1 53:32 Eirik Skadsdammen (Anders Bastiansen, Lars-Erik Spets) PP2
3-1 54:58 Eirik Skadsdammen PP1
Norway 10x2, France 11x2, SOG 21:31 (8:8, 7:15, 6:10), Att: 187.
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11636_kamprapport.pdf
Goaltenders: Pål Grotnes - Fabrice Lhenry

Denmark - Slovenia 7-1 (0-0, 2-1, 5-0)
1-0 30:59 Daniel Nielsen (Julian Jakobsen) PP1
2-0 33:31 Kasper Degn (Daniel Nielsen, Rasmus Pander) PP1
2-1 39:34 Andrej Hebar (Anze Terlikar) PP1
3-1 40:55 Christoffer Kjærgaard (Daniel Nielsen, Kasper Degn) PP1
4-1 46:42 Mick Jensen (Michael Eskesen, Rasmus Olsen)
5-1 50:06 Daniel Nielsen (Jesper Damgaard) PP2
6-1 52:25 Morten Andreasen (Rasmus Pander, Michael Smidt) PP1
7-1 54:40 Kasper Degn (Mads Christensen, Julian Jakobsen)
DEN 5x2, SLO 10x2, SOG 40:24 (15:9, 12:11, 13:4), Att: 1,049
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11636_kamprapport.pdf
Goaltenders: Peter Hirsch - Andrej Hocevar

14 December 2007

France - Slovenia 4-2 (2-0, 1-2, 1-0)
1-0 05:28 Laurant Gras (Maurice Rozenthal, Olivier Coqueux) PP1
2-0 19:53 Kevin Hecquefeuille (Cyril Papa)
3-0 26:08 Laurant Gras (Maurice Rozenthal, Olivier Coqueux) PP1
3-1 31:29 Andrej Tavzelj PP1
3-2 38:20 Andrej Hebar
4-2 59:57 Baptiste Amar SH1-EN
FRA 12x2 + 1x10 (Desrosiers), SLO 10x2, SOG 24:19 (10:6, 8:7, 6:6), Att: 45
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11638_kamprapport.pdf
Goaltenders: Landy Macrez - Glavic Gabar

Denmark - Norway 4-0 (2-0, 0-0, 2-0)
1-0 07:21 Mads Bech Christensen (Morten Andreasen, Andreas Andreasen)
2-0 17:57 Kim Karsberg (Morten Andreasen, Thor Dresler)
3-0 51:08 Kasper Degn (Mads Christensen)
4-0 59:05 Christoffer Kjærgaard
DEN 8x2, NOR 6x2, SOG 36:33 (9:8, 15:15, 12:10) Att: 1,586 @ Vojens
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11639_kamprapport.pdf
Goaltenders: Patrick Galbraith - Ruben Smith

15 December

Norway - Slovenia 2-5 (1-1, 1-1, 0-3)
0-1 08:09 Andrej Hebar (Ales Remar, Ziga Pavlin) PP1
1-1 09:09 Petter Kristiansen (Eirik Skadsdammen)
2-1 22:24 Kristian Forsberg (Brede Csiszar, Petter Kristiansen) PP1
2-2 31:59 Mitja Sivic (Jure Kralj) PP1
2-3 50:37 Marjan Manfreda (Ales Remar, Jakob Milanovic) PP2
2-4 50:43 Mitja Sotlar (Anze Terlikar, Mitja Sivic) PP1
2-5 59:34 Marjan Manfreda (Andrej Hebar) EN
NOR 12x2, SLO 11x2, SOG 33:31 (7:14, 20:9, 6:8), Att: 66
http://www.al-bankligaen.dk/Live/Kamprapporter/11640_kamprapport.pdf
Goaltenders: Pål Grotnes - Glavic Gabar

Denmark - France 2-4 (0-2, 1-1, 1-1)
0-1 00:31 Anthoine Lussier
0-2 16:13 Kevin Hequefeuille (Simon Lacroix)
0-3 27:42 Nicolas Besch (Julien Desrosiers)
1-3 29:07 Jannik Karvinen (Mick Jensen)
1-4 52:42 Olivier Coqueux
2-4 56:44 Julian Jakobsen (Mads Bech Christensen) PP2
DEN 3x2, FRA 9x2; SOG 35:27 (11:12, 10:8, 14:7), Att: 1,127
Goaltenders: Simon Nielsen - Fabrice Lhenry

Rankings

||GP|W|T|L|OTW|GA:GA|P
1. France|http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/france.jpg|3|2|0|1|0|9:7|6
2. Denmark|http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/denmark.jpg|3|2|0|1|0|13:5|6
3. Slovenia|http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/slovenia.jpg|3|1|0|2|0|8:13|3
4. Norway|http://www.internationalhockey.net/flags/flags_mini/norway.jpg|3|1|0|2|0|5:10|3

Atahualpa

17-12-2007, 09:36

Second EIHC tournament won by France. They're coaching at the best for next World Championship. The opponents must be carefull.