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hockeynomad
28-07-2005, 19:36
I heard through grapevine that filming is underway for the 1972 Canada-Russia Series.

This won't be a "Miracle on Ice" hollywood affair, but filmed in Canada and will devote some attention to the behind the scenes stuff.

The production company is the same as "Trailer Park Boys". Let's hope the profanity will be edited for that matter. :003:

This is not part of the film, but frankly, in retrospect, many players would wish the Russian militia did arrest Alan Eagleson and throw him in the Gulag. :yelclap: :claphands

http://www.publicairwaves.ca/index.php?page=1027

Brimsek
29-07-2005, 14:29
That's awesome they are making the movie. I hope we can see it down here.

Just a note: Miracle was well done and is considered very accurate overall. What was too "Hollywood" for you? Miracle dealt with some behind the scenes issues as well, but obviously focused on the game itself and the battle to make the squad.

In a number of interviews after Miracle came out (from both US and Russian players) they praised the overall accuracy of the film. Another side note -- it was filmed in British Columbia.

body-czech
30-07-2005, 20:34
Thatīs great. I just hope it wonīt be filmed in the same way ,,the Miracle on ice,, was. None hollywood propaganda!

Brimsek
30-07-2005, 21:14
Thatīs great. I just hope it wonīt be filmed in the same way ,,the Miracle on ice,, was. None hollywood propaganda!I don't think there was propoganda in Miracle.

In the themes covered in the movie -- I saw no propaganda.

1) The United States at the time had a weak economy with rising inflation. That's portrayed in the movie with little or no hype. They were in a hostage incident with Iran and gas shortages were common.

2) Herb Brooks' inner struggle after being the last person cut from the gold Medal squad in 1960. That's true -- he was the last person cut with only weeks to go. His desire to coach the team was fuled by that incident.

3) His wife's struggles with Brooks' obsession with beating the Soviet team. That is also true -- he worked crazy amounts of hours and his wife questioned what and why he was doing it and how it was impacting their family life.

4) The fact that the game took on political overtones. I was 13 years old at the time -- I can tell you that was also true. Of course that was silly for many American's to put that much politcal import onto the game itself, but that was the feeling at the time. I was guilty of it too -- even at age thirteen. Having lived through what it did to galvinize the US (rightly or wrongly) I can tell you that that part of the movie was not hyped up. We watched the game as a family.

5) The fact that the Soviets were the far better team -- the movie shows no disrespect to the accomplishments of the Soviet team. The US truly went into the Olympics hoping not to get embarassed. That wasn't Brooks' thought, but the management of the USHA.

6) The Norwegian incident is not hype. That actually happened -- Brooks was ticked off and he made the team work -- that was what he wanted -- a team. Amatuer hockey in the US was very regionalized at the time. Brooks wanted the players to think and act as a family. He achieved that in the end. He also fostered a "coach v the team" mentality on purpose as well.

7) The admitted hype by the director was the supposed fight between the two "regions" of US hockey -- Minnesota v New England. Never happened.

8) The movie dealt with the fact that Brooks knew that the US had to change their style of play. That was also true -- he did change the style of play going into the olympics.

9) The struggle of the players on the team as the roster was getting cut down. The fact that Jack O'Callahan was injured in the last exhibition game heading into the games and Brooks carried him on the roster anyway.

10) The struggles of Jim Craig in dealing with his mothers death and his fathers financial struggles.

11) Lastly -- it was a movie not a documentary. It's meant to entertain. I thought it did so without taking too many liberties to the truth of the situation.

The game itself was well played out using camera's at ice level to give you a feeling of being on the ice and angles of traditional television broadcasts. The director primarily chose guys who could play hockey -- he commented that he would worry about the acting later. He used sound from real hockey action instead of canned sound very common in US movies.

I have pointed out why I think there is no propaganda in the film. You state that it was Hollywood propaganda. Could you please say why instead of just making the statement. Of course I'm biased towards it -- I'm an American and I'm a passinate hockey fan.

IHG is supposed to foster international friendship and discussion about hockey. Nothing I wrote here is intended to offend you Body-Czech, but I would like to hear what you thought was propaganda in the film. I tried to cover what I thought were the main stories to the film. If I missed something please point it out.

southern_hockey
30-07-2005, 21:20
I don't think there was propoganda in Miracle.
I dont think so either, in fact, I quite enjoyed the movie myself, even bought it :001:

Graham
31-07-2005, 15:45
I have pointed out why I think there is no propaganda in the film. You state that it was Hollywood propaganda. Could you please say why instead of just making the statement. Of course I'm biased towards it -- I'm an American and I'm a passinate hockey fan.

OK. I'm not an American. I think there was propoganda in the film, but only the propoganda that existed in the game itself. I don't think Hollywood embelished it any. As Brims says, there was a lot of political importance (for the Americans at least) put into the game. Therefore, you can't make a film of it without portraying the propaganda that game was used to create.

I will disappointed if the 72 Summit Series doesn't convey even more propaganda, since the series was even more politically charged than the 1980 Olympics.

Graham.

hockeynomad
01-08-2005, 00:39
OK. I'm not an American. I think there was propoganda in the film, but only the propoganda that existed in the game itself. I don't think Hollywood embelished it any. As Brims says, there was a lot of political importance (for the Americans at least) put into the game. Therefore, you can't make a film of it without portraying the propaganda that game was used to create.

I will disappointed if the 72 Summit Series doesn't convey even more propaganda, since the series was even more politically charged than the 1980 Olympics.

Graham.


Canadian filmmaking is quite different from the Hollywood fare. As you all know Hollywood tends to over-dramatize and embellish for entertainment value at the expense of the actual story itself. Canadian films follow more of the international flavour of telling a story without all the hype.

But the Miracle movie was not too bad. A key component was to enter the psyche of Herb Brooks as to what drove him and how he shaped his team. A bit different from other productions that push the fact that this team was destined to win.

Far from it, as I read somewhere the Soviet version of things was more accurate. They just underestimated the team and the result was a fluke, a one in a million, which it probably was. That and the fact the goalie Tretiak was pulled out for the start of second period. That really through off the Soviet players.

Again, the Canadian movie of 72 series will focus on many unknown behind the scenes going-ons to stimulate interest as everyone knows the details of the result.

Marc M
06-08-2005, 16:43
Again, the Canadian movie of 72 series will focus on many unknown behind the scenes going-ons to stimulate interest as everyone knows the details of the result.

I don't know about that, knowing the details of the result.
I have only watched game 8 about 19 times, heard the audio of the Henderson goal 1,074.5 times, read 1285 articles about the series, visited 1972 summitseries.com 400 times.
I need a refresher on the results by now! :blah: :002:
I hope the film is not done like a CBC production, because I can imagine the mothercorp spinning the series to make the appearance that all the players and management of Team Canada were trying to win in an effort to pave the way for same sex "marriage".
What I mean is, I hope any political depictions are of the real political mood of the time, not a transfer of today's political fads into an event of the past.

The only thing I didn't like about "Miracle" is the way the movie seemed to dismiss "the pros", as if no professionals had ever won against the Soviets.
( I also realise that the film 'Miracle' was not about the pros, but about the 1980 team USA, so the glancing treatement the pros get in the film must be understood in that vien)
Brooks was correct that some change in tactic was needed, but he had the luxury of keeping his players together for a good time of training, something the NHL reality would not permit.
Marc M

hockeynomad
25-11-2005, 19:49
Anyone know when this will air on CBC?

I'm thinking of dedicating a thread to everything on 72 series, as I''ve seen what's out there may be of interest to us oldtimers.

hockeynomad
15-03-2006, 19:00
Some insight on the movie soon to be shown on television in Canada.

There is expected to be a DVD release with added drama to come.

I hear the movie will have some behind the scenes events that is little heard of.

For instance, Vic Hadfield backed by Ken Dryden, tried a revolt to fire coach Harry Sinden just prior to the games in Moscow.

I've seen the actor portraying Dryden and he looks like his twin.

http://www.1972summitseries.com/canadarussia72movie.html

Tobias
15-03-2006, 19:51
Additional info about the movie...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484098/

hockeynomad
15-03-2006, 19:54
Additional info about the movie...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484098/


Hi Butcher, saw that site before, doesn't have much info.............now.

Tobias
15-03-2006, 21:13
Hi Butcher, saw that site before, doesn't have much info.............now.

No not besides the starring list. But yes, it will be updated as soon as more comes up.

Aldair
16-03-2006, 02:05
By the way, if somebody interesting in seeing the goals from the games, there is the link:

http://nhlstars.kulichki.net/video/index.html

In the column on the right side you can see the blue mpg links.

hockeynomad
16-03-2006, 02:55
By the way, if somebody interesting in seeing the goals from the games, there is the link:

http://nhlstars.kulichki.net/video/index.html

In the column on the right side you can see the blue mpg links.

Good, but only Soviet goals. I guess the others were censored. :censored: :scratchhe

Aldair
16-03-2006, 11:43
It's because of the site is about russians

hockeynomad
22-03-2006, 19:10
Miniseries doesn't sanitize mythic duel with Soviets Brilliant script presents players

This mini-series will air on CBC April 9 and 10..

Here is the article while it lasts:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1142894779866

hockeynomad
29-03-2006, 18:46
Here is a detailed article from a magazine insert of the Globe & Mail newspaper but somebody in the office ran off with it, most likely to read this article.

http://www.toromagazine.ca/0406/television/index.html

Actually the thing that really caught my attention was the babe on the cover of the magazine at the left. Whoee, are you free tonight, mademoiselle? :023: :p :drinker-g